Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/23/2000 01:08 PM House TRA

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HB 426 - TRANSFER OF RAILROAD LAND: CHUGACH PARK                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALCRO announced the next order of business as House Bill                                                              
426, "An Act relating to transfers of public land or grants or                                                                  
conveyances of interest in public land among the Alaska Railroad                                                                
Corporation, the Department of Transportation and Public                                                                        
Facilities, and the Department of Natural Resources to relocate or                                                              
widen the Seward Highway, to relocate railroad facilities, and to                                                               
relocate adjacent utility facilities; and providing for an                                                                      
effective date."  There is a proposed amendment by Representative                                                               
Halcro, which reads as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          Insert "..relocate adjacent utility facilities from                                                                   
          Potter Station to Girdwood;"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1062                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS POSHARD, Legislative Liaison/Special Assistant, Office of                                                                
the Commissioner, Department of Transportation & Public Facilities,                                                             
came before the committee to present the bill.  He explained that                                                               
the Department of Natural Resources has management responsibility                                                               
for the Chugach State Park, but they may not modify the boundaries                                                              
of the park without legislative approval.  The purpose of the                                                                   
proposed legislation, therefore, is to provide the Department of                                                                
Natural Resources the ability to work with the Department of                                                                    
Transportation & Public Facilities, the Alaska Railroad                                                                         
Corporation, and other utilities in order to modify, improve,                                                                   
upgrade and enhance easements, as necessary, instead of coming to                                                               
the legislature for approval for each separate project.  He noted                                                               
that the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities has four                                                              
or five future projects in the Seward Highway corridor within the                                                               
boundaries of the Chugach State Park between Potter Station and                                                                 
Girdwood.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1165                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN asked Mr. Poshard how the legislation would                                                              
affect the proposal for a rail spur in Girdwood, which is scheduled                                                             
to run along the west side of the valley.  Is that part of the                                                                  
Chugach State Park?                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD replied he's not sure.  He deferred the question to a                                                               
representative of the Alaska Railroad Corporation.  He has only                                                                 
studied the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities'                                                                   
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1211                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN asked Mr. Poshard whether Potter Station is                                                              
to the east of Potter Marsh.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD replied Potter Station is to the southwest of Potter                                                                
Marsh on the boundary of the Chugach State Park.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1236                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN asked Mr. Poshard whether any proposal to                                                                
widen the Seward Highway, for example, would affect the Division of                                                             
Parks & Outdoor Recreation [Department of Natural Resources].                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD replied he doesn't believe that Potter Marsh is within                                                              
the boundaries of the Chugach State Park.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1277                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALCRO asked Mr. Poshard whether the Department of                                                                     
Transportation & Public Facilities is "fine" with the proposed                                                                  
amendment, which tightens the title and makes it consistent with                                                                
the text of the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD replied the department is fine with the proposed                                                                    
amendment.  It would not affect the department's projects.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1316                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALCRO noted that the proposed amendment should actually                                                               
read as follows:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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          After:  "facilities"                                                                                                  
          Insert:  "from Potter Station to Girdwood;"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1337                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked Mr. Poshard whether the legislation                                                                
would cover the requirement of the railroad to come before the                                                                  
legislature for approval to dispose of land.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD deferred the question to a representative of the Alaska                                                             
Railroad Corporation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked whether it's necessary to have a legal                                                             
description of what is being done to the land.  This legislation is                                                             
pretty general.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD answered, at this point in time, the projects are still                                                             
in the preliminary design stages.  The specific tracts of land are                                                              
not available, which is why the department is asking that the                                                                   
Department of Natural Resources have the authority to work with                                                                 
them.  It essentially amounts to a swapping of corridors.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1445                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WENDY LINDSKOOG, Director of External Affairs, Alaska Railroad                                                                  
Corporation, Department of Community & Economic Development, came                                                               
before the committee to testify.  She indicated that the                                                                        
legislation is defined to land within the Chugach State Park and to                                                             
a corridor for the railroad.  It has nothing to do with assets from                                                             
the federal government, as Representative Cowdery alluded to                                                                    
earlier.  There is a bill in the legislature now which deals with                                                               
that issue.  She further indicated, in response to Representative                                                               
Kemplen's question, that this legislation would not affect the rail                                                             
spur in Girdwood, for that land is owned by the Heritage Land Bank                                                              
with the Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1500                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RON CRENSHAW, Marine Recreation & Trails, Central Office, Division                                                              
of Parks & Outdoor Recreation, Department of Natural Resources,                                                                 
testified via teleconference from Anchorage.  He announced that he                                                              
is here today to let the committee know that there is a                                                                         
representative from the Division of Parks & Outdoor Recreation                                                                  
available to answer any questions.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALCRO closed the meeting to public testimony.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1532                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to adopt Amendment 1, as                                                                    
amended.  There being no objection, Amendment 1 was so adopted.  It                                                             
reads as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          After:  "facilities"                                                                                                  
          Insert:  "from Potter Station to Girdwood;"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1553                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to move HB 426, as amended, out                                                             
of committee with individual recommendations and attached zero                                                                  
fiscal notes; he asked unanimous consent.  There being no                                                                       
objection, CSHB 426(TRA) so moved from the House Transportation                                                                 
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             

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